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Can anyone be a ventriloquist?

He can. Can anyone be a clown? He can. Could anyone be a soldier or an astronaut? He could.

It’s not the kind of job where you have to go and ask permission. (The military) says no.

MARTIN: So what about what is your job?

HARTENSON: It’s the kind of job where you work, you’re called in if you need to, to perform a task. That’s as much as I could ever ask.

MARTIN: If you’re a police officer, you know, and you’re out there working a neighborhood, maybe there’s – it’s not – you should not feel pressured to take a particular role of that officer. But there are officers everywhere. That’s what the U.S. Constitution says. And what happens – it’s the law, yeah. You just don’t want to break it.

HARTENSON: We’ve got a Constitution that we all swore to uphold. So, yeah, we all have sworn to uphold it. It doesn’t mean you don’t still have civil rights, it means they shouldn’t be trampled. Now, that part is the law. I mean, it’s – I mean, the point of the U.S. Constitution is not to let people who can’t uphold the law to put people – put you in an unguarded place.

MARTIN: So what would you say about all the – all the political correctness? You know, are you suggesting that we should censor – to censor people?

HARTENSON: Yeah. I think censorship is a form of oppression.

MARTIN I think you’re wrong. I think I’m just saying that if you do censor yourself, if you become the censor of your own self, then you’ll probably still be oppressed, and you’ll become more like the oppressor than the free individual…

HARTENSON: I will be a free and independent citizen.

MARTIN: Well, what do you think about a society where – if you want to read and you don’t want to say the words you’re going to say – well, for example, the way some of the lyrics to your song are written, you know, is, you know, in black and white – you will be punished. But if you want to – you can go off on, you know, what you like, what you don’t like.